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Balanced Ventilation with HRVs and ERVs

Energy- and heat-recovery ventilators keep indoor air quality high without a big energy penalty

The core of an energy-recovery ventilator allows the transfer of both heat and moisture between exhaust and supply air streams. Along with heat-recovery ventilators, these appliances provide balanced ventilation systems and reduce the energy costs of providing fresh indoor air. Photo courtesy RenewAire.

“Build tight, ventilate right” is a phrase becoming increasingly familiar to high-performance builders. It means that as houses get tighter and better insulated, the need for well-designed mechanical ventilation gets more compelling.

At its simplest, this means using kitchen and bathroom fans to remove moist or particulate-laden air. In this exhaust-only approach, outside air finds its way into the building via gaps in the building enclosure. Supply-only ventilation works the other way: fans bring fresh air into the house but there’s no dedicated path for stale indoor air to leave. Both of these approaches are economical but have drawbacks.

A more effective option is a balanced ventilation system in which incoming air is offset by an equal volume of outgoing air, which keeps air pressure in the building close to neutral. Builders and designers who specialize in superinsulated houses with very low air leakage rates now are likely to include either a heat- or energy-recovery ventilator in the plans. These mechanical systems are similar in that they have a core through which both incoming and outgoing air travel to transfer energy and, in the case of ERVs, moisture.

In a heat-recovery ventilator, or HRV, there’s an exchange of thermal energy across the core. This is what engineers call “sensible heat.” In winter, exhaust air transfers some of its thermal energy to incoming fresh air, reducing much of the energy loss that would otherwise take place. In an energy-recovery ventilator, or ERV, there is an exchange of sensible heat but also an exchange of moisture, or “latent heat.” (These systems also are called enthalpy-recovery ventilators.) In both winter and summer, ERVs are designed to keep indoor humidity levels more comfortable.

A newer generation of ventilator substitutes a conventional ERV core with a heat pump. The units provide heating and cooling as well as ventilation, so they are fundamentally different from devices aimed mostly at providing fresh air with a minimum of energy losses. Two such products are the Build Equinox CERV and the Minotair Pentacare.

“Ventilation is good but it represents a really, really large energy stream to continuously heat, cool, humidify or dehumidify that stream of air that just comes in from outside,” says Brian Ault, a senior design engineer with Positive Energy, a mechanical systems consulting firm. “HRVs and ERVs help reduce the amount of energy that takes plus, they can filter it, so you can catch most of the big stuff before it comes into the house.”

There are more than a dozen manufacturers that offer ERVs or HRVs (or both) to buyers in the U.S., including familiar ventilation brands such as Broan, Fantech, Panasonic, and RenewAire, along with companies that may be a little less familiar to U.S. homeowners, such as Zehnder, a Swiss company that makes the high-end ComfoAir systems. (The Home Ventilating Institute, an industry trade group, maintains a list of manufacturers at its website, which is available here.)

Air distribution systems for HRVs and ERVs vary widely. At one end of the scale are systems that include dedicated supply and exhaust ducts to key rooms in the house. That ensures a constant and well-distributed source of clean outdoor air but at a relatively high cost. Other systems are less complex and may even use existing HVAC ducting to distribute outdoor air. Through-the-wall appliances provide fresh air for a single room.

Costs for installing a system in a typical 2000-sq.-ft. house range from about $3000 or less to nearly $10,000 for a high-end system with more complex ducting. (The units themselves are much less expensive, ranging from less than $1000 to nearly $4000 for a top-end model.)

The basics of system operation

The heart of an ERV or HRV is a metal box with four ports. Inside, the core of a heat exchanger looks something like corrugated cardboard and allows incoming and outgoing air to cross paths without actually mixing. HRV cores, Ault said in a telephone call, are fairly simple, consisting of aluminum or another light metal with good heat-transfer properties.

“They’re not awesomely efficient,” he said, “but they have effectiveness ratings somewhere between 50%-60% up to 95% depending on the size, the brand, and how much air flow goes through them.”

ERVS get more complicated. Instead of a basic aluminum heat exchanger, an ERV typically has a core made out of a polymer embedded with a desiccant, a material that absorbs moisture. The core material permits the passage of some moisture, although it’s still air-impregnable so the airstreams don’t mix. This type of cross-flow core is common in a residential unit, where airflow rates are lower than 250-300 cubic feet per minute (CFM), Ault said. Above that, in commercial buildings, office buildings, and schools, it becomes more practical to use a rotating wheel with a desiccant.

Diagram showing air flow in an ERV
In the summer, outgoing air that has been cooled pulls some of the heat and humidity from the incoming airstream. Illustrations courtesy RenewAire.

 

Diagram showing winter air flow in an ERV
In winter, an ERV helps indoor air retain moisture. The heat exchanger also warms incoming fresh air.

To meet ASHRAE ventilation requirements, a three-bedroom, 2000-sq.-ft. house would typically need a system rated at 90-100 CFM, Ault said. Sensible heat recovery in an HRV averages about 70%. In an ERV, a certain amount of sensible heat recovery is taking place and in addition the latent recovery is usually between 40% and 60%, so about half the moisture difference in the two airstreams will be transferred through the core.

“It is an appreciable amount of latent energy when you have a legitimate difference between your indoor moisture levels and your outdoor moisture levels,” Ault said. “Up north, it’s dry as a bone outside for four or five months out of the year in the winter. In the summer, sometimes it’s about the same as inside the house. Farther south, that’s flipped.”

In humid parts of the country—the southeast U.S.—running an ERV during the summer does not lower indoor humidity. An ERV will actually increase indoor relative humidity because the outdoor air doesn’t shed all of its moisture on its way indoors. But the problem would be worse if an HRV were installed because there is zero moisture transfer in an HRV. Even though moisture levels will go up when running the ERV, stale indoor air is being exhausted and fresh outdoor air is being introduced. A dehumidifier or an air conditioner can deal with excess humidity.

According to Ault, ERV cores eventually get plugged with oil, skin cells, hair, and dust and should be replaced every four to 12 years. A less complicated HRV core should go for a couple of decades without any major maintenance. When it gets dusty, a homeowner can just clean it off with compressed air.

The key, however, may be in changing filters regularly, not in any inherent flaws in core design that limit their life span. In this BS* + Beer Show episode, which aired last fall, Enrico Bonilauri of EMU, a Passive House consulting firm, noted that the only moving parts in an HRV or ERV are the fans, so there’s not much to wear out, and cores can last for decades providing that filters are changed on schedule.

Bonilauri also noted that heat recovery rates for many models may be overstated because the heat generated by fans inside the unit may incorrectly be attributed to heat recovery. In units that are not certified by the Passive House Institute, he said, the stated heat recovery rates should be reduced by 12%.

Choosing between an HRV and an ERV

A great deal of ink has been spilled by researchers and journalists on the question of whether an HRV or ERV is the best choice.

According to Jacki Donner, the Ventilating Institute’s CEO, the decision has been boiled down to where you live. Historically, HRVs were more common in houses in colder climates because the chief concern was the amount of thermal energy that could be saved. Humidity was seen as a secondary problem. The most efficient units on the market capture more than 80% of the heat in the outgoing airstream and transfer it to incoming air—in really cold environments, that’s a big plus. ERVs were typically specified in places with hot, humid summers because they transfer some of the moisture in indoor air to the outgoing air, thereby making indoor relative humidity more tolerable than it would be with an HRV.

But there is nothing simple about this debate. For example, there’s a good case to be made for ERVs in cold, northern climates. Cold air holds less moisture than warm air, so during the winter outdoor air is very dry. When it’s brought into the house without any attempt to salvage the moisture from the outgoing airstream, indoor air can get uncomfortably dry.

Photo of a Zehnder HRV
This Zehnder HRV includes a number of supply and exhaust ducts. Ducted distribution systems run the gamut from complex, like this one, to simple designs with only a few supply and exhaust ports. Photo courtesy Alex Wilson.

How this plays out depends on the size of the house, the number and behavior of the occupants, and how tight the house is. Small houses with very little air leakage and lots of people, high indoor humidity can be a problem in the winter. An HRV can make it more comfortable. But a large, leaky house in a cold climate may already be very dry during the winter, so an ERV will help prevent it from becoming too dry. In other words, there is no simple formula that fits every house and every climate. (For a detailed discussion of the variables that go into making this decision, read this article by Martin Holladay. Although it is more than a decade old, the basics have not changed.)

Donner says that while HRVs have historically dominated the market, especially in Canada, that’s changing. “Today and moving forward, ERVs are used more and more throughout the USA,” Donner said in an email. “A similar situation is occurring in Canada.”

ERVs have been more expensive than HRVs in the past, but that gap is narrowing, and designers are recognizing the importance of capturing humidity in the winter, Donner said, giving ERVs a lift even in areas where HRVs once ruled.

Nick Agopian, vice president for sales and marketing at RenewAire, raised two other points. In a telephone call, he said that HRVs are more difficult to install. They have to be oriented in only one way so condensates drains work properly (ERVs can be installed at any orientation). In cold weather, HRVs are more likely to freeze up, he added, requiring a defrost cycle.

RenewAire, which began life as a solar energy company in the 1970s before branching into ventilation, decided in the early 1980s to focus on total energy rather than sensible energy alone. The company doesn’t make an HRV. “Where ERVs used to be 25% [of the market] and HRVs were usually 75%, it’s now shifted,” Agopian said, “because at the end of the day they cost about the same price and they perform on the whole aspect rather than on the sensible aspect of energy transfer.”

“An HRV is used to save energy,” he said, “but an ERV is also used to downsize the capital costs of [air conditioning or dehumidification] equipment. If we’re going to lower the temperature, we can downsize the equipment. But if the humidity stays the same and you still have to dehumidify, you can’t downsize. All you’re doing is saving a portion of that energy but your capital equipment still needs to be the same size and it has to work hard to dehumidify that air.”

Heat transfer in an ERV typically isn’t quite as good as it is with an HRV, he said. And as the latent energy performance of an ERV is increased by making the desiccant-laden membrane thicker, the thermal performance goes down. But nationally, the tide seems to be turning toward ERVs.

“Deciding between an ERV and an HRV should land on ERV most of the time,” says Allison Bailes III, a Georgia-based consultant. “In a warm, humid climate, an ERV brings in less outdoor humidity than an HRV. (An ERV isn’t a dehumidifier. It does still add to the latent load in the house.) In a hot, dry climate, an HRV will make your already dry air even drier. In a cold climate, bringing in outdoor air without moisture exchange can result in extremely low humidity in winter. Only in mild climates like the West Coast of North America do HRVs make sense . . . sometimes.”

In an email, Bailes added that occupancy is another factor to consider. “The higher the density of people in a space, the more you might need to dry out the air with an HRV,” he said. “A small, airtight apartment or condo with two or three people in it, for example, may be too humid indoors with an ERV.”

Bailes continued: “Another reason people choose HRVs is that they’re more efficient at transferring heat than are ERVs. What good is it to have high-efficiency ventilation, though, if you end up growing mold? The primary way to choose between an ERV and an HRV is to understand the moisture control needs of the space being ventilated.”

Ductless HRVs and ERVs

Several manufacturers offer through-the-wall HRVs and ERVs designed for smaller spaces. They include the Zehnder ComfoAir 70 ERV, the Panasonic WhisperComfort ERV, the Lunos e2 and eGO, and the TwinFresh Comfo RB-1-50. These ductless ventilators move relatively small volumes of air so they are best suited for small spaces. Zehnder’s model has a maximum capacity of 35 CFM, for example, while the Lunos e2 is rated only up to 22 CFM.

Working in tandem, a pair of Lunos through-wall ERVs are designed for small spaces. They alternate between exhaust and supply modes with a reversing fan. Image courtesy 475 High Performance Building Products

At least two of them have a ceramic core that serves as the heat and moisture exchange and a fan that reverses direction. Exhaust air warms up the core, and when the fan runs in the opposite direction, incoming air recaptures that heat (and in some cases moisture). The Lunos e2s are installed in pairs and operate on opposing cycles of exhaust and supply, which the manufacturer says results in balanced ventilation.

These devices are much less expensive than the whole-house models that require some ducting. But because they have lower capacities for air flow, it might be necessary to install a number of them in order to reach recommended ventilation rates for the whole house. That can get expensive.

COVID-19 and other health concerns

The growing impact of wildfires in the West and the unrelenting spread of COVID-19 raises other questions about indoor air quality and public health. Filters for incoming air can help reduce the levels of dangerous particulates—especially those measuring 2.5 microns in diameter called PM2.5—along with the other junk that’s often found in outdoor air. MERV-13 filters are typical but more effective HEPA filters can be substituted when outdoor air conditions are especially challenging. Bringing fresh air into the house dilutes pollutants that remain, but filters should be checked regularly.

When it comes to COVID, transmission rates are lower when indoor relative humidity is in the 40% and 60% range, according to this article posted last fall by researchers at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. That suggests ERVs may be more beneficial during the winter in cold-climate areas because they help keep humidity higher than it would be otherwise. Although an HRV has higher thermal efficiency, in some situations an HRV can make indoor air too dry during the winter.

ASHRAE offers detailed guidance on the operation of ERVs during the pandemic in this document published last year.

Deciphering flow rate requirements

Determining how much fresh air a ventilation system should provide can give even experts a headache. “It’s hard,” admitted Cramer Silkworth of Baukraft Engineering in the aforementioned BS*+ Beer episode. The IRC requires buildings with air leakage rates of less than 5 ACH50 to have whole-house mechanical ventilation, but standards on exactly how much are evolving.

The benchmark is AHSRAE Standard 62.2. In pre-2013 versions, it required supply air of 0.01 CFM of ventilation air per sq. ft. plus 7.5 CFM per occupant; on the exhaust side, it called for 25 CFM of continuous ventilation in kitchens (100 CFM supplied intermittently), and 20 CFM in the bathroom for fans run continuously (50 CFM for intermittent operation). In versions of 62.2 published after 2013, supply air requirements went up sharply, while exhaust air minimums followed a new schedule in the kitchen, depending on whether a range hood was used. Passive House requirements are more demanding.

Building scientists were divided on whether the changes were a good idea. Some experts argued that even the old requirements were too high because they tended to result in high indoor moisture in humid climates.

The bottom line can be no absolutes, even for engineers like Silkworth who work with system specifications all the time. His approach is to use the code-required ventilation rates in whatever jurisdiction he’s working in as a minimum. To that, he likes to add another 25% to 50% in capacity at least in boost mode.

“It depends a lot on what’s going on in that building and what the occupants are doing,” he said in a telephone call. “It’s hard to nail down any one specific formula for maintaining good air quality. More fresh air is better, especially now with all of the COVID concerns, but there’s the energy expense and especially humidity control you have to add to those systems. So, until we have free dehumidification and heating and cooling and filtration on all these systems it’s kind of a battle between those two factors—you need enough but not too much, and it’s really hard to say what those levels are.”

The system should be commissioned after it has been installed to make sure it’s performing as designed, he said, and filters should be changed on a regular basis.

Another question is whether the systems should run continuously or intermittently. Older systems use one-speed fans and simple controls. With intermittent operation, the system effectively runs at variable speeds without the cost and complexity of variable-speed motors and controls, Silkworth said. Variable-speed motors, however, are becoming more common. They can be sized for peak demand (boost mode) but run at 75% of capacity most of the time. Those systems are quieter and more efficient, but they still have the peak capacity they might need a few hours of the day.

Asked whether ventilation systems that run continuously are best for indoor air quality, Silkworth said: “Yes, but if you have a cycling system that goes on and off every 15 minutes, I don’t think that 15 minutes of off time is going to kill your air quality to any noticeable extent—unless we’re talking about a densely occupied conference room or something like that. If it were hours between cycles that would be a problem.”

A compromise between lower-cost systems with one-speed motors and more expensive systems with variable-speed motors are two-speed fans that are becoming more common, he said, adding, “If that could be a standard option that would be great.”

Distribution takes many forms

Fresh air can be distributed around the house in one of many ways. As described in this paper published by the Building Science Corp., the simplest is a “single-point” system with one supply duct and one exhaust duct. Pulling indoor air from the master bedroom pulls fresh air in from other sources. When there is no central air handler available, this type of system is inexpensive, but it doesn’t ensure ventilation air will be distributed evenly around the house. Spot ventilation would be required in bathrooms and kitchens.

Drawing of air ventilation ducts
This simple system has one supply duct and one exhaust duct, along with spot ventilation in the kitchen and bathroom. Drawing courtesy Building Science Corp.

In a multi-point system, fresh air is distributed to bedrooms and main living areas while stale air is drawn from common areas, such as a hallway, the kitchen and bathrooms (exhausting a cooking area with an HRV/ERV is not recommended). Building Science Corp. says these fully ducted systems represent best practice and are the most efficient but also the most expensive. They also are effective where there is no central air handler available.

An air handler also can become part of the distribution system. Fresh air is routed through the HRV/ERV and into the supply side of the air handler, as shown in the diagram below. Returns to the air handler go through a filter, and other ducts pull stale air from indoors and direct it to the HRV/ERV. These systems also mean whole-house distribution, and come with moderate cost. A variation is to draw the exhaust air for the HRV/ERV directly from the air handler’s return trunk while supplying all fresh air through the air handler’s ducts.

Drawing showing multi-point distribution system for ventilation
This distribution system uses the air handler in the HVAC system to distribute fresh air from an HRV or ERV. It also includes kitchen and bathroom fans for spot ventilation. Drawing courtesy Building Science Corporation.

Zehnder’s devices, which have become well known to those building and designing high-performance houses, are an example of a multi-point system. They are among the most expensive on the market, with installed prices in a single-family home approaching $10,000. But they are highly rated and have very high thermal transfer rates.

Less sophisticated systems will be much less expensive, but to advocates like Agopian it’s all about the importance of fresh air and good health. He may be in sales, but the RenewAire executive was part of an ASHRAE working group studying ventilation requirements for multifamily dwellings and is well versed in the technical side of the business.

One of his biggest frustrations is the relative lack of attention to indoor air quality in U.S. buildings, and the reluctance of homeowners and builders to invest a few thousand dollars in a mechanical system that can dramatically improve health. He calls ventilation “preventive medicine” that can be more effective than medication people have to take after they’ve developed health problems because of exposure to air pollutants in their own homes.

Buyers choose one make of HRV/ERV over tens of dollars difference in cost, he said. Cost-conscious buyers object to requirements for higher ventilation rates that mean only marginal increases in energy costs.

“Really?” he said, “so you’re going to put a $10,000 granite countertop or a $20,000 Wolf range in your house because you want it look good, but you’re worried about putting in even a $4000 ERV when I can show you that it will improve your life?”


Scott Gibson is a contributing writer at Green Building Advisor and Fine Homebuilding magazine. An earlier version of this article attributed the phrase “Build Tight, Ventilate Right” to Jack Hébert, founder of the Cold Climate Housing Research Center, but the attribution my have been in error.

29 Comments

  1. b_coplin | | #1

    The idea that ventilation can be "more effective than medication" (third to last paragraph) needs to be supported by scientific evidence, critically examined by the author, or omitted entirely. Regurgitating unsupported claims, even if attributed to a knowledgeable sales executive, falls far short of the quality and judgement I expect from GBA and other Taunton publications.

    1. GBA Editor
      Martin Holladay | | #2

      Bryan,
      I'm sympathetic to your position. (For more on this topic, see "Ventilation Rates and Human Health.")

      That said, there seems to be a great deal of interest in this topic in light of the Covid pandemic, so I'll be revisiting the topic in a future article.

    2. charlie_sullivan | | #3

      That actual quote is "can be" not "is".

    3. maine_tyler | | #4

      Bryan, I agree with the desire for scientific rigor, but I think the specific line in full provides a bit more context than 'more effective than medication.'

      The actual line is "...“preventive medicine” that can be more effective than medication people have to take after they’ve developed health problems because of exposure to air pollutants in their own homes."

      For one, it says 'can.' Doesn't let them off the hook entirely, but at least provides a qualifier.

      More importantly, it refers to medication people would have to take as a result of exposure to indoor air pollutants. If a pollutant is sufficiently removed so as not to even cause an illness, its hard to imagine a medicative treatment as being dubbed 'more effective.' It might depend on what is meant by 'effective.' The medication could perhaps be very cheap (probably not though) and therefore 'effective', but I would personally consider avoidance of said illness more desirable than having to take medicine. We could also argue that even before ventilation, one should eliminate any introduction of said pollutants into the home entirely--when possible.

      What does need scientific backing (and is probably your real point) is the effectiveness of ventilation to eliminate said pollutants and thus reduce or eliminate the cause of illness. There are quite a few studies that discuss quantitative air quality results with ventilation. But it's indeed difficult to make the next leap towards anything definitive when it comes to anything health related, especially in regards to Covid where the scientific body of evidence is still very young, and because it's exceedingly difficult to isolate factors in human health.

      1. b_coplin | | #5

        You and Charlie are both quite correct on "can" vs. "is." Thanks for pointing it out. I updated my post, but it doesn't alter my point.

        The third to last paragraph repeats a non-statement from a sales executive. Part of a journalist's job is to be skeptical and provide context. I think the last few paragraphs fell short in that regard, in what was otherwise a good overview of a frequent Q&A topic. I understand mechanical ventilation "can dramatically improve health" is a better pitch than "mechanical ventilation is necessary for moisture and odor control, and probably has health benefits for some people that are difficult to isolate, measure and quantify"--but there is no obligation for a reporter to present either piece of information without context.

        1. LarkoMundo | | #25

          Bryan et al....Yus guy's critism over the implication that the phrase "more effective than medication" is pure BS (Bovine Skatt).... It is well established that medicine has consistently been in the top five leading causes of death in the U.S. for many years. The tenants of the disciple are (A) Drugs, (B) Cut it Out or (C) Radiate it. Even the suggestion that ingesting or injecting synthetic chemicals/drugs in humans is remotely healthier than fresh air ventilation is nonsense. Such an unfounded theory has nothing to do with science. I recommend you adjust your paradigms. Maybe start with looking up a lady named Florence Nightingale. Even Ben F had a thing to say about it.

          1. drafthunter | | #26

            Right on Danny. To the less intelligent, medicine is the ONLY answer. They are also usually the most unhealthy people. The health benefits of fresh air is well documented. To suggest that the author needs to prove it is beyond asinine.

  2. trigonman3 | | #6

    A previous article had a comment about a dual core combo HRV/ERV in a single unit, but no manufacturer or model was mentioned. Do we have any discussion of pros and cons of such a unit (and who makes them)?

    1. charlie_sullivan | | #7

      Zehnder has units with swappable cores, and I think some others do too. I have one, and at the end of the summer, when my indoor humidity has snuck up higher than I'd like, I am watching the outdoor dew point, eager for some good dry days. As soon as we are getting those consistently, without tropical air expected to blow in, I swap in the HRV core and try to flush out that humidity. That mostly works out, although there are usually some days where the dew point swings back up and I wish I hadn't swapped it so early.

      Then when the indoor humidity gets down to around 45%, I swap in the ERV core again to keep the humidity from dropping too much lower over the winter.

      If you wanted to accomplish something like that automatically, you could simply have two units, an ERV and an HRV, and run one or the other.

      1. trigonman3 | | #8

        Thanks, Charlie. I've read good things generally about Zehnder on this site, and they're on my short list. I will probably pick a single ERV for the house I'm preparing to build in north Texas (climate zone 3).

  3. scottohara | | #9

    Based on personal experience the installation of a HRV has been more effective than medication for my daughter and my allergies. We no longer need the medication and we feel better than we did when we were on it.

  4. norm_farwell | | #10

    There seems to be a developing scientific consensus that the health effects of indoor air quality are more significant than was previously thought.

    Some of this new interest is related to Covid and air-borne disease and some is concerned with an evolving understanding of indoor air toxins and their effects.

    More here:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/10/fresh-air-cool-new-office-amenity/620288/

    As with so many things, there is a powerful avoided-cost argument to be made in favor of investing in harm avoidance beforehand rather than harm treatment after.

  5. charles3 | | #11

    The sales executive is just following the misleading example of so many doctors who use the word "can" when they really mean "might". Whenever I see the word "can" in a health context, I remember that if I buy a lottery ticket, I can win the lottery.

    On another topic, it does not appear to me that the Panasonic WhisperComfort ERV is ductless or through-the-wall as claimed.

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  7. Etcm | | #13

    At first i was determinedto have an ERV, but living in Indiana, there are two times of the year when the humidity has impact -outside summer air is high and outside winter air is low. I calculated straight heat xfer ( from delta T) to be about 25% of the energy vs the humidity contained heat. In Summer that heat must be made up with AC and in winter, heat to humidify the incoming air.
    What I am wondering is if the incoming summer air is cooled enough by the outgoing air to condense the incoming humidity and in the cold winter, if the incoming cold air can condense the humidity in the heated outgoing air to XFER that heat to the incoming air? I'm sure the dewpoints match up beneficially at the peak times of the year when it matters most. Is this thinking on the " need to experiment" side of the issue, or has that already been published elsewhere?

    1. charlie_sullivan | | #14

      Those two situations you describe, where there's a big difference between indoor and outdoor humidity, are exactly where the benefits of ERV vs. other types of ventilation are most prominent. Thinking about those situations should make it clearer that ERV is the best choice, and should not give you concerns. It works well in either case.

      The incoming air in summer has moisture removed even though or even if it's not cooled to the point of condensation. The vapor permeability of the core allows moisture transfer from the moist incoming air to the dry outgoing air, without needing condensation.

      Similarly, in winter, the moisture from the outgoing air can transfer to the incoming air without condensation occurring.

      What you are hoping for is exactly what ERV is designed to do. If you want more specific data, you can look at the detailed specs for a specific unit--maybe post a question in the Q&A with a model you'd like to consider and people can help decipher the specs.

      But no other way of providing ventilation will do that at all. It's the best option for what you are thinking about.

      1. Etcm | | #23

        Thank you Charlie.

  8. Phimnoi | | #15

    By now I've read every document that talks about ventilation on this site as well as all those available at https://www.buildingscience.com and https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/ , It as been a great learning experience and I'm thankful for all those great resources.

    Here is the situation: I have a 107o square feet house all on one floor with 15200 cubic feet of condition space, 9.5 feet celling in one half and cathedral celling in the other.

    There is 60 feet of 6 inch pipe for the fresh ait inlet and 60 feet of 6 inch pipe to the spent air outlet, Both bath rooms like every room in the house as its own 5 inch air inlet and outlet ready to connect. I just don't know what size of HRV I should be looking to buy, I'm on the New York state border just south of Montreal Canada.

    1. charlie_sullivan | | #16

      Roland, the number of people, or number of bedrooms, factor in to the ventilation rate as well as the size of the space.

      1. Phimnoi | | #17

        It's a 2 bedroom house...

      2. Phimnoi | | #19

        Is it worth looking for a unit that claims to be self balancing?

    2. this_page_left_blank | | #18

      Most people undersize the ERV. You can't go wrong with something like a 200cfm ERV with ECM blowers. Dial it back as needed, probably something like 60cfm. It will run quiter than a 100cfm unit running at 60cfm, and gives the ability to do more cfm if you have a party or something. You don't want an inlet and outlet in every room, just one or the other. Typically you have the exhausts in the bathrooms and kitchen, maybe the ultility room; supplies in the bedrooms and main living areas. The supply and exhaust should be balanced.

      1. Phimnoi | | #20

        I keep reading that winters in cold climats are dry and how that's the reason that ERV are often recommended. Well on the 45th parallel near Montreal we have high humidity levels, would that be a good reason to go for an HRV instead?
        Annual graph attached...

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          PETER G ENGLE PE | | #21

          Roland, You are confusing relative humidity with the total moisture content of the air. Briefly, the RH is just the percentage of moisture in the air compared to the total amount of moisture the air can hold at that temperature. Cold air holds much less moisture than warm air, so 100% RH at 25 degrees is way less total moisture than 100% RH at 70 degrees. If you take your outdoor air in February that's at 95% RH at 20 degrees and you warm it up to indoor temperature of 70 degrees, the new RH is less than 20%: super dry. An ERV will conserve some of the outgoing moisture so that your house does not dry out too much.

        2. Jon_R | | #22

          As the article explains, ERV vs HRV is not as simple as the climate.

  9. cldlhd | | #24

    After testing and seeing how high our CO2 and also our radon level is, even though we don't have a basement, I've been looking into installing one of these. My question is if you have a separate bathroom exhaust fan, range hood, and a dryer vent that gets used pretty often. Often wouldn't it be beneficial to keep a slight positive pressure on the house? Because I imagine it would help those fans work better especially if the ERV was running. Most likely I don't plan on keeping it running 24 hours a day. Or is the idea that if you have it set up as balanced if It's running and you turn on a range hood, bathroom fan, or range hood or maybe all three will the unit automatically sends the negative pressure and speed up the intake flow relative to exhaust?

    1. Phimnoi | | #27

      If your house was well built and airtight you will need more that just a good ERV, you'll also need a makeup air source to compensate for your bathroom exhaust fan, range hood, and vented dryer and some kind of radon mitigation system if your radon concentrations go above 2.0 pCi/L (75 Bq/m3).

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      MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #28

      Cldlhd,

      There are ERV/HRVs that can be set to unbalance the pressure, but not nearly enough to compensate for the other fans which exhaust much higher CFM.

      As Roland said - in a very tight house you may need a separate make-up air source for these appliances.

  10. rshuman | | #29

    Does anyone have any suggestions about what ERV to buy? I am looking for a unit capable of 60-80 cfm. Panasonic? Broan? Renewaire? Other? Not looking for a Zehnder. I can compare statistics but real world feedback would be very helpful.

    Thanks.

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